GCW Invasions - Tool and Building Phase Adjustments

Defensive patrols using chef experimentation was under my radar already but i didnt know about towers, upvoted. Also the main problem with invasions is that the attackers have a huuuge advantage because the attacking patrols and vehicles have the NGE values spawn rates which are incredibly fast for our combat style so its a massive zerg of npcs and a clown fiesta.

While i do agree with Aconite's point of enabling attackers to sabotage those building, the defender patrol tool using chef experimentation and the tower tool using droid experimentation needs to be set to the same as their coutnerparts

Personally I would rather see the distribution of crafting tools be reworked in order to improve participation from crafters. The experimentation types looks to be using the same as NGE which allowed every crafter to build every tool, but each of the four types of Trader had something they specialised in.

Barricade Construction Tool - Structures Trader
Tower Construction Tool - Engineering Trader
Turret Construction Tool - Munitions Trader
Patrol Construction Tool - Domestic Trader

I don't like the current setup on R3 because Architect and Armorsmith get to have multiple tools, meanwhile Chef, Tailor and Shipwright are excluded entirely.

My proposal would be:

[Defend]
Barricade Construction Tool (Architect, Armorsmith)
Patrol Point Construction Tool (Chef, Tailor)
Tower Construction Tool (Droid Engineer)
Turret Construction Tool (Weaponsmith, Shipwright)

[Attack]
Offensive Patrol Construction Tool (Armorsmith, Weaponsmith, Chef, Tailor)
Combat Vehicle Construction Tool (Architect, Droid Engineer, Shipwright)

This way every crafter can participate in both attack and defence, and the objects they create still more or less makes sense as to what each of the classes would logically be able to make. Although with a setup like this it would require all the tools to use Artisan Experimentation which might have weird effects.

A crafting role for Tailors... yes please!

mbt4 said:

[Defend]
Barricade Construction Tool (Architect, Armorsmith)
Patrol Point Construction Tool (Chef, Tailor)
Tower Construction Tool (Droid Engineer)
Turret Construction Tool (Weaponsmith, Shipwright)

[Attack]
Offensive Patrol Construction Tool (Armorsmith, Weaponsmith, Chef, Tailor)
Combat Vehicle Construction Tool (Architect, Droid Engineer, Shipwright)

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I am all for the expansion of crafting profession's involvement in the GCW, however I am afraid i find it not exactly the most logical to include some of these professions when it comes to expanding the creation of the construction tools.



Allow me to elaborate point by point:

- Though I can see the line of thinking in which Armorsmith could qualify to craft the Barricade tools, in practice I find that armorsmithes are more focused on personal protection rather than reinforcing walls.

- For the construction of Patrol tools (both offensive and defensive), I find that Armorsmith is the most appropriate profession. I can see the line of thinking of Tailors being able to craft field uniforms for soldiers or Chefs giving troops a hearty meal before battle, But I feel it would be more interesting and thematic if these professions were added in their own unique flavor rather than take away from what already exists.

- To expand on this thought, I would find it more interesting if Tailors could instead craft for tools for either faction banners or field uniforms for officers to lead troops. Either implementation would grant a potential damage or attack buff to NPC patrols that spawn from constructed nodes within range of the banner. Additionally, Chefs could have the potential to craft Canteen tools that would have a similar effect on NPCs but instead would grant a health buff to those spawned from constructed nodes within range. Similar to to how the more resources go into a Patrol spawn to increase the patrol's capability, the more resources put into the Canteen and Banner/Uniform tools would increase the range at which the buff is granted to NPCs as well as potentially increasing the strength of the buff as more resources are added. These crafting options would be available for crafting either for both Attackers and Defenders, or Banners/Field Officers would be available to attackers while Canteens would be available for Defenders.

- Tower construction tools I feel should remain exclusive for Architects so that they are able to provide a niche to the defending side. After all, what better defense is there other than a big structural wall between you and your attacker? Additionally, Towers can more or less be considered elevated platforms to defenders can be used to attack from. In this way, I would hope to eventually allow players to use an elevator terminal to go to the top of these towers and fire down onto incoming attackers, potentially granting the defenders a minor defense buff as well as making it difficult to attack the closer the attackers get to the tower.

- I am pro expanding Turret Construction tools to shipwright.

- As stated previously, I would argue that Armorsmith should be the primary profession to craft patrol tools and Chef and Tailor could potentially have their own roles to fill in city invasions. That said, I could see expanding the tool to also be craftable by Weaponsmith to allow them to fill the general niche of supplying troop patrols.

- As previously stated, Architect I feel is a much more defense oriented profession. Additionally, I would argue an Architect's expertise does not necessarily apply to vehicle machinery and engines. However I would find the expansion to include shipwright more than valid and I support this as a potential change.



With these notes in mind, I will be adding some of the points mentioned here to my senatorial agenda so that I may actively track the current state of these potential changes. Please continue to give feedback regarding the current state of the Galactic Civil War and the activities pertaining to it so that once all this Jedi business is concluded, we can hit the ground running on potential changes and fixes in the lead up to 2.0 (2035 here we come!).

DJGonk said:

I am all for the expansion of crafting profession's involvement in the GCW, however I am afraid i find it not exactly the most logical to include some of these professions when it comes to expanding the creation of the construction tools.

Allow me to elaborate point by point:
- Though I can see the line of thinking in which Armorsmith could qualify to craft the Barricade tools, in practice I find that armorsmithes are more focused on personal protection rather than reinforcing walls.
- For the construction of Patrol tools (both offensive and defensive), I find that Armorsmith is the most appropriate profession. I can see the line of thinking of Tailors being able to craft field uniforms for soldiers or Chefs giving troops a hearty meal before battle, But I feel it would be more interesting and thematic if these professions were added in their own unique flavor rather than take away from what already exists.
- To expand on this thought, I would find it more interesting if Tailors could instead craft for tools for either faction banners or field uniforms for officers to lead troops. Either implementation would grant a potential damage or attack buff to NPC patrols that spawn from constructed nodes within range of the banner. Additionally, Chefs could have the potential to craft Canteen tools that would have a similar effect on NPCs but instead would grant a health buff to those spawned from constructed nodes within range. Similar to to how the more resources go into a Patrol spawn to increase the patrol's capability, the more resources put into the Canteen and Banner/Uniform tools would increase the range at which the buff is granted to NPCs as well as potentially increasing the strength of the buff as more resources are added. These crafting options would be available for crafting either for both Attackers and Defenders, or Banners/Field Officers would be available to attackers while Canteens would be available for Defenders.
- Tower construction tools I feel should remain exclusive for Architects so that they are able to provide a niche to the defending side. After all, what better defense is there other than a big structural wall between you and your attacker? Additionally, Towers can more or less be considered elevated platforms to defenders can be used to attack from. In this way, I would hope to eventually allow players to use an elevator terminal to go to the top of these towers and fire down onto incoming attackers, potentially granting the defenders a minor defense buff as well as making it difficult to attack the closer the attackers get to the tower.
- I am pro expanding Turret Construction tools to shipwright.
- As stated previously, I would argue that Armorsmith should be the primary profession to craft patrol tools and Chef and Tailor could potentially have their own roles to fill in city invasions. That said, I could see expanding the tool to also be craftable by Weaponsmith to allow them to fill the general niche of supplying troop patrols.
- As previously stated, Architect I feel is a much more defense oriented profession. Additionally, I would argue an Architect's expertise does not necessarily apply to vehicle machinery and engines. However I would find the expansion to include shipwright more than valid and I support this as a potential change.

With these notes in mind, I will be adding some of the points mentioned here to my senatorial agenda so that I may actively track the current state of these potential changes. Please continue to give feedback regarding the current state of the Galactic Civil War and the activities pertaining to it so that once all this Jedi business is concluded, we can hit the ground running on potential changes and fixes in the lead up to 2.0 (2035 here we come!).

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I agree that the ideal would be for every crafter to have unique tools that suit them thematically but that calls a lot of extra development time that likely won't be available for months or years leading up to 2.0. So in the meantime, would it not be best to work within the framework of what we already have and maximise fun/participation from crafters, even if it is not 100% logical?