Increased Token Drops in Heroics

Increased Token Drops in Heroics
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PaladinTelreyne

PaladinTelreyne

Galactic Senator
Proposal
My proposal is to increase the amount of Heroic tokens issued from completing a Nightmare Mode Heroic from 1 to 2. Currently all difficulties issue 1 token this change suggests doubling that on this difficulty.
Justification
This change would reward players more consistently for clearing the content on harder difficulties, encouraging guilds to commit more to progression of said content. The loot drops are very inconsistent and having a consistent reward for completing nightmare mode will provide more incentive for these modes.
Motivation
Currently, there is not really a reason to do nightmare mode. You may get more/better loot but the drops are so inconsistent you could commit to a long and difficult run and be rewarded with almost nothing valuable in return. This change will make doing nightmare mode more appealing to run.
My proposal is to increase the amount of Heroic tokens issued from completing a Nightmare Mode Heroic from 1 to 2. Currently all difficulties issue 1 token this change suggests doubling that on this difficulty.

This change would reward players more consistently for clearing the content on harder difficulties, encouraging guilds to commit more to progression of said content. The loot drops are very inconsistent and having a consistent reward for completing nightmare mode will provide more incentive for these modes.

Currently, there is not really a reason to do nightmare mode. You may get more/better loot but the drops are so inconsistent you could commit to a long and difficult run and be rewarded with almost nothing valuable in return. This change will make doing nightmare mode more appealing to run.
 
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Absolutely agree with this. The comp requirements for nightmare are quite restrictive and the loot pool is incredibly wide which can leave it feeling a bit deflating in a lot of cases. It's a risk to run nightmare and it should be rewarded appropriately.
 
Not while you can throw as many jedi into it as you want. Until limits on jedi are imposed then none of them should be giving extra anything.
 
Frankly higher difficulties need to have an inherent chance increase ratio of the more sought after drops, at very least on NM guaranteeing one of the top end drops to be rewarded
 
For Nightmare Difficulty yes. I believe this idea has merit.

The exception I think should be Hardmode TK, which should also reward 2.

Everything else is fine.

It should however not be double during double events, too much double is too much skipping.
 
I can get behind making Nightmare mode sought after for unique loot or something to that effect, but I don't think changing token economy is it
 
Fezix93 said:
I can get behind making Nightmare mode sought after for unique loot or something to that effect, but I don't think changing token economy is it
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A big issue isn't what you win, it's what you don't win. Doing Nightmare and seeing drops but not winning anything by having bad luck sucks ***, especially with how much work it takes to do.

It's the great equalizer, and the simplest solution than messing with drops again. The only dungeon that I think has issues with loot is TK and IG (mostly because half my extra loot couldn't make it in.)
 
I support this and would say Nightmare tokens ought to be 3, hard mode grants 2, and normal/easy gives you 1. I think that's perfectly fair.
 
On nightmare mode this is roughly how much loot drops from my experience (and these numbers are probably conservative):
AM - 10M
IG - 15M
TK - 15M
ISD - 20M
EK - 30M

I think the loot rewards are sufficient. Tokens are by far the most valuable thing you're getting from doing easy and normal modes. If you start doing double or triple tokens for nightmare, then you're drastically lowering the value of tokens in general and punishing those who are only capable of easy and normal modes.
 
Any change will be small at first and be adjusted later on. 2 for Nighmare seems fair to me. I won't go further.

It may even be loot that drops, not something your rewarded at the end so that people who don't get anything get the extra tokens and nobody else. That way it also wouldn't be affected by double token events.

Does this sound like a better solution?
 
Down vote , the reward for doing Nightmare should come from the loot , if the loot drops does not match the difficulty that is a whole different discussion.
Giving 2 tokens for Nightmare mode will only incentivize the use of more Jedi in groups in order to obtain tokens and further monopolize the sale of heroic sets by a handful of groups capable of clearing Nightmare
 
jcan0918 said:
Down vote , the reward for doing Nightmare should come from the loot , if the loot drops does not match the difficulty that is a whole different discussion.
Giving 2 tokens for Nightmare mode will only incentivize the use of more Jedi in groups in order to obtain tokens and further monopolize the sale of heroic sets by a handful of groups capable of clearing Nightmare
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Easy mode exists though and it certainly does not require Jedi.

This isn't saying your point is wrong, just pointing out what you said about earning tokens.
 
Derpyh said:
Easy mode exists though and it certainly does not require Jedi.

This isn't saying your point is wrong, just pointing out what you said about earning tokens.
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Explain to me then why some players are still complaining about earning heroic sets as it stands right now ? As you pointed out easy mode exists and does not require Jedi.....
The crying about prices and not wanting to do heroics was obviously so loud that guess what ? The reward for the upcoming Petranaki tournament is double heroic tokens
 
jcan0918 said:
Explain to me then why some players are still complaining about earning heroic sets as it stands right now ? As you pointed out easy mode exists and does not require Jedi.....
The crying about prices and not wanting to do heroics was obviously so loud that guess what ? The reward for the upcoming Petranaki tournament is double heroic tokens
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Many players who do the content feel as if since it takes quite a bit longer to do timewise and skill wise than NM it should reward more tokens for the time and effort taken.

This is feedback I get often as the PvE Senator.

Additionally, this PV was made far before that was known.
 
Derpyh said:
Many players who do the content feel as if since it takes quite a bit longer to do timewise and skill wise than NM it should reward more tokens for the time and effort taken.

This is feedback I get often as the PvE Senator.

Additionally, this PV was made far before that was known.
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Does this mean you are ok increasing the loot table for easy and normal as well giving access to nightmare and hard mode loot table. You are not doing NM for tokens you are doing it for drops.
 
If there are nightmare capable people who truly just want the tokens, what about enabling a separate mode for that? Upon entering the instance, you can select "challenge mode" which will have the same difficulty at nightmare mode, but not have any loot. And, upon successful completion, all group members will be rewarded 2 tokens (maybe 3?) instead of the regular 1 token.
 
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