Smuggler Abilities

RoHRemis · Feb 28, 2022

I believe that Smugglers need a little love, especially when fighting bounty hunters. The 2 proposals would level the playing field in a logical way that doesn't break the game.

Drueric · Feb 28, 2022

I am always for improving smugglers, however Im not sure how this "first strike" ability could be implemented. I mean, how can you dictate who gets to shoot first. Granted im not familiar with the BH vs smuggler mechanic, but isnt the BH specialty to catch you?

RoHRemis · Feb 28, 2022

Drueric said:
I am always for improving smugglers, however Im not sure how this "first strike" ability could be implemented. I mean, how can you dictate who gets to shoot first. Granted im not familiar with the BH vs smuggler mechanic, but isnt the BH specialty to catch you?

Yes, bounty hunters should get the jump on anyone else. A Master Underworld Smuggler should have contacts across the galaxy that warn him that someone is coming after him

I'd also be okay with it being an ability you can use to see if a bounty hunter has your bounty, so it's not an automatic thing. NGE smugglers had the ability to check another player's bounty.

Bounty hunters are by far the most common and meta ranged class because of how strong they are. Instead of nerfing them, why not give smugglers an advantage? After all, commando is getting some love soon so smuggler changes should be brought up now.

BuddyHightower · Feb 28, 2022

I would prefer a way to hide from the BH instead of going up against him.
Give smugglers "cloak / hide radar / non-trackable' something.

RoHRemis · Feb 28, 2022

RoHRemis said:
Yes, bounty hunters should get the jump on anyone else. A Master Underworld Smuggler should have contacts across the galaxy that warn him that someone is coming after him

I'd also be okay with it being an ability you can use to see if a bounty hunter has your bounty, so it's not an automatic thing. NGE smugglers had the ability to check another player's bounty.

Bounty hunters are by far the most common and meta ranged class because of how strong they are. Instead of nerfing them, why not give smugglers an advantage? After all, commando is getting some love soon so smuggler changes should be brought up now.

Well if you can get the jump on them you can just concussion shot and run. But I do like the idea of being able to buy out or hide your bounty.

Dom · Mar 1, 2022

I really hope that smuggler gets some love. Currently, they're probably only used for slicing and are taken as an auxiliary profession for crafters.

Possibly adding more spices, implement a way to check if another player has a bounty on them and if they're currently being hunted(like in NGE), and maybe something related to the black market since that's sort of their thing...

The 'shoot first' ability is a step in the right direction, but smuggler does not have many damaging abilities to follow up with to really fight against a bounty hunter.

RoHRemis · Mar 1, 2022

Dom said:
I really hope that smuggler gets some love. Currently, they're probably only used for slicing and are taken as an auxiliary profession for crafters.

Possibly adding more spices, implement a way to check if another player has a bounty on them and if they're currently being hunted(like in NGE), and maybe something related to the black market since that's sort of their thing...

The 'shoot first' ability is a step in the right direction, but smuggler does not have many damaging abilities to follow up with to really fight against a bounty hunter.

If they had that one ability, and pistoleer got a little bit of love, we'd be competitive

Rozay · Mar 1, 2022

The only problem with this is that a bh can't kill a smuggler as is. The smuggler will just conc shot and run to the starport and be out

. So this would just make it so there'd be 2 outcomes. 1. The smuggler kills the bh, or 2. The smuggler tries to kill the bh and then runs if they can't.

BuddyHightower · Mar 1, 2022

Rozay said:
The only problem with this is that a bh can't kill a smuggler as is. The smuggler will just conc shot and run to the starport and be out. So this would just make it so there'd be 2 outcomes. 1. The smuggler kills the bh, or 2. The smuggler tries to kill the bh and then runs if they can't.

Hard to run away when you are on your back. Non-stop!

RoHRemis · Mar 1, 2022

Rozay said:
The only problem with this is that a bh can't kill a smuggler as is. The smuggler will just conc shot and run to the starport and be out. So this would just make it so there'd be 2 outcomes. 1. The smuggler kills the bh, or 2. The smuggler tries to kill the bh and then runs if they can't.

That's why I tried to come up with a solution that doesn't make us overpowered. We can stun and run when we want or need, but a little bump in the beginning of the fight can give us a better chance at actually killing BHs in a canon smuggler way.

RoHRemis · Mar 1, 2022

BuddyHightower said:
Hard to run away when you are on your back. Non-sto

Rozay said:

The only problem with this is that a bh can't kill a smuggler as is. The smuggler will just conc shot and run to the starport and be out. So this would just make it so there'd be 2 outcomes. 1. The smuggler kills the bh, or 2. The smuggler tries to kill the bh and then runs if they can't.

Click to expand...

And with Mustafar there will be an item that makes you immune to daze effects. I'm not looking forward to that.

juspar · Mar 3, 2022

Rozay said:
The only problem with this is that a bh can't kill a smuggler as is. The smuggler will just conc shot and run to the starport and be out. So this would just make it so there'd be 2 outcomes. 1. The smuggler kills the bh, or 2. The smuggler tries to kill the bh and then runs if they can't.

They've killed me.

I'd be all for some kind of Han Shot First skill that allowed me to concussion (with my pistol against their rifle range) shot and run. I'm never gonna try and stand and bang with a BH. I'll drop my cargo and run at the first sign. I only get on the bounty board when I'm doing PvP smuggler runs, so there would be a serious penalty to me for running away from that. I'm down

Silayn · Mar 24, 2022

A smugglers best utility is in CC the build is not designed to stay and fight, it is to run away. Also learn to use your radar when doing smuggling missions, it helps out a ton.

samIam · Mar 24, 2022

RoHRemis said:
2,) Shoot First ability. Smugglers should have a high damaging ability that has a 5-10 second charge and can only be used when both targets are out of combat. Han Solo's iconic scene in the Mos Eisley cantina sets the stage for that. Maybe unlocking Underworld faction can lower the warm up down from 10 seconds to like 5 seconds.

Trust me you don't want this. As a commando there is nothing worse than waiting for a ten second charge then... miss or better yet when it actually hits it hits with kids gloves and you barely see the bar move.

RoHRemis · Mar 24, 2022

Silayn said:
A smugglers best utility is in CC the build is not designed to stay and fight, it is to run away. Also learn to use your radar when doing smuggling missions, it helps out a ton.

That makes sense, that's why I'm not really asking for a huge damage increase or anything, mostly the ability to shoot first. Of course, adjusting pistoleer is where most of the damage would come from.