Remove ground/space player bounty distinction

Kreeve · Nov 21, 2022

I know I'm not the only one that would enjoy this change.

Edit: My stance on this has changed and I no longer think this is the way to go. I'll leave the proposal unedited for people to further discuss, if needed.

Arawanos · Nov 21, 2022

Id rather see the bounty go on the ship, and stay only in space. Afterall its a ship earning the bounty (who knows who flew it). Perhaps instead separate the ground and space bounties to dedicated terminals. That would also allow dedicated JTL players to not have to level up a combat toon for enjoying the space PvP.

sabz · Nov 21, 2022

tbh, this makes sense, when the pilot is on the ground, he should still have the active bounty on him. Yes makes it harder to claim the bounty if your not in space, but if the bounty is walking around to get a buff, those few minutes they should be vulnerable to land based BH?

reidski182 · Nov 21, 2022

What about a CL1 pilot?

Kreeve · Nov 21, 2022

reidski182 said:
What about a CL1 pilot?

Personally I don't see an issue with it, but I do understand some might.
The way I see it is if you PvP (and get a bounty) you gotta be ready for the consequences.

Arawanos · Nov 21, 2022

Kreeve said:
Personally I don't see an issue with it, but I do understand some might.
The way I see it is if you PvP (and get a bounty) you gotta be ready for the consequences.

I see Space (JTL) and ground PvP as two different gamestyles and appealing to two different playergroups.

Oomas · Nov 21, 2022

Arawanos said:
I see Space (JTL) and ground PvP as two different gamestyles and appealing to two different playergroups.

I don’t

Oomas · Nov 21, 2022

Pvp is in a bad place and this will only improve things

RoHRemis · Nov 21, 2022

I disagree. Space doesn't require any combat levels or ground experience. This would only further discourage space PVP and contribute little to nothing to ground PVP

Oomas · Nov 21, 2022

Bollocks

RoHRemis said:
I disagree. Space doesn't require any combat levels or ground experience. This would only further discourage space PVP and contribute little to nothing to ground PVP

RoHRemis · Nov 21, 2022

Oomas said:
Bollocks

You make a compelling argument with many great points.

I'll counter with this: Instead of complaining that you can't kill pilots on the ground, git gud at space.

Kreeve · Nov 21, 2022

RoHRemis said:
You make a compelling argument with many great points.

I'll counter with this: Instead of complaining that you can't kill pilots on the ground, git gud at space.

I know that wasn't aimed at me and I was wondering when a comment like this would be made (I almost mentioned it myself in the original post)..
To clarify, this PV wasn't born as a result of some salty space fueled whining on my part, it's fair to say I'm a pretty good pilot and I'd have no issue at least putting up a fight 1v1 with anyone on this server, so from my point of view it isn't about not wanting (or being able) to fight people in space.

RoHRemis · Nov 21, 2022

"...it's annoying to see the terminal filled with space bounties."

I have heard this expressed a lot and it's not a good reason to make the change.

My suggestion has been to have more accurate tracking space. This should fix the first part of this sentence. "Space bounties are a pain to hunt down due to the lack of accurate tracking..."

Oomas · Nov 21, 2022

RoHRemis said:
You make a compelling argument with many great points.

I'll counter with this: Instead of complaining that you can't kill pilots on the ground, git gud at space.

All I hear is wah wah wah

stop crying and hiding in space

RoHRemis · Nov 21, 2022

Oomas said:
All I hear is wah wah wah stop crying and hiding in space

I acknowledge your request, but will respectfully decline.

I usually have a bounty on my ground character, which I play way more often.

Kazhar · Nov 21, 2022

tracking in space is a complete waste of time and yea these bounties flooding the bh terminal are really annoying indeed, but given that even cl1 crafters can be pilots claiming these bounties on the ground wouldnt be a good solution either

RoHRemis · Nov 21, 2022

Oomas said:
All I hear is wah wah wah stop crying and hiding in space

Do you even hunt fellow Imperials?

reidski182 · Nov 21, 2022

Well yeah, I totally get the frustration, and almost agree. But the crafter bounties need to be addressed, there's gotta be a better solution. Maybe we can add location-specific tracking?

I know space bounties can be off-putting because people have unicorn ships, but Remis has blown me up several times and as far as I know he doesn't have any crazy parts

RoHRemis · Nov 21, 2022

reidski182 said:
Well yeah, I totally get the frustration, and almost agree. But the crafter bounties need to be addressed, there's gotta be a better solution. Maybe we can add location-specific tracking?

I know space bounties can be off-putting because people have unicorn ships, but Remis has blown me up several times and as far as I know he doesn't have any crazy parts

Better tracking will help people that want to do bounties in space, but it won't help the "it's annoying to see bounties I can't clear"

Banth · Nov 21, 2022

RoHRemis said:
Better tracking will help people that want to do bounties in space, but it won't help the "it's annoying to see bounties I can't clear"

Not a BH so not 100%, but don't all missions on the BH terminal share the same tab?

Could the space bounties just be filtered into a separate tab on the mission terminal (similar to how destroy/delivery missions are split) to solve this issue? That way players have the option of viewing these separately if they wish to do so and can avoid them completely if they don't want to take them. Might as well separate the PvP bounties as well from the PvE missions (if they aren't already).